THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012
One Rank One Pension: Pay and Pension Grievances of Military
As per PIB Release ID No. 87037 related matter again knocked in Rajya Sabha and same reply submitted by MoD, which was already submitted in Lok Sabha on 27th August [click here to see]. The full details of Lok Sabha query is also reproduced here:-
PIB Release 87037: Click here
Ministry of Defence 30-August, 2012
Committee to Look into Pay and Pension Grievances of Military
The Committee chaired by Cabinet Secretary is comprised of Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister; Defence Secretary; Secretary, Department of Expenditure; Secretary, Department of Ex-Servicemen's Welfare and Secretary, Department of Personnel and Training. Consequent to change in charge of the then Secretary, Department of Expenditure to Department of Revenue, Secretary, Department of Revenue has also been co-opted as a Member of the Committee. Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee made a presentation to the Committee. The Committee further interacted with all the Service Chiefs (Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee; Chief of Air Staff and Chief of Army Staff). The recommendations of the Committee have been submitted to the Prime Minister.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to Shri Arvind Kumar Singh and others in Rajya Sabha today.
**** Source Link: http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=87037 To see an interested guest article "Leave it to the experts" published by Hindustan Times **[Click here]**
Full details of Lok Sabha Q&A dated 27th Aug, 2012
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
LOK SABHA
PAY AND PENSION MATTERS OF PERSONNEL
UNSTARRED QUESTION NO 2514 by Shri M. B. RAJESH, GANESH SINGH, EKNATH MAHADEO GAIKWAD, N.S.V. CHITTHAN, ASADUDDIN OWAISI, NEERAJ SHEKHAR, ANAND PRAKASH PARANJPE, YASHVIR SINGH, KAPIL MUNI KARWARIYA, KHATGAONKAR PATIL BHASKARRAO BAPURAO, PARTAP SINGH BAJWA, MANICKA TAGORE & S. RAMASUBBU
Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state:-
(a) whether the Committee, recently constituted by the Government, to look into the pay and pension related matters of serving and retired defence personnel has submitted its report;
(b) if so, the composition of the Committee including the recommendations made by them in this regard;
(c) whether the Committee included the representatives of the three Services of the armed forces and also the Ex-servicemen and if not, the reasons therefor; and
(d) the steps being taken by the Government on the recommendations made by the Committee?
ANSWERED ON 27.08.2012
ANSWER by MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI A.K. ANTONY)
(a) to (d): The Committee chaired by Cabinet Secretary is comprised of Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister; Defence Secretary; Secretary, Department of Expenditure; Secretary, Department of Ex-Servicemen’s Welfare and Secretary, Department of Personnel and Training. Consequent to change in charge of the then Secretary, Department of Expenditure to Department of Revenue, Secretary, Department of Revenue has also been co-opted as a Member of the Committee. Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee made a presentation to the Committee. The Committee further interacted with all the Service Chiefs (Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee; Chief of Air Staff and Chief of Army Staff). The recommendations of the Committee have been submitted to the Prime Minister.
Read more: Click here to read more
Leave it to the experts
August 29, 2012, Hindustan Times
First Published: 21:26 IST(29/8/2012)
The term 'civil-military relations' describes the relationship between civil society as a whole and the military organisations established to protect it. In all democracies, the military leadership is part of the decision-making process, especially on defence and national security issues. But not in India, where the bureaucracy is supreme despite the fact that it lacks the know-how on such issues. This results in chaos, communal disturbances and terrorist attacks from within and across the borders.
The chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee (COSC), Admiral Nirmal Verma, stated in an article that the crux of the problem lies in the fact that the service chiefs remain "non-persons" in the edifice of the government. The background to this anomaly is found in two volumes of business rules, issued under the constitutional powers of the president in 1961. They state that the responsibility for India's defence and its preparation has been vested in the defence secretary. The three service chiefs are not allocated any responsibilities by these rules.
Recently, the defence minister visited the troops deployed on the Line of Control (LoC) to assess their morale. He was shocked to learn that there was discontentment among the soldiers because they earn less than their counterparts in civil and paramilitary forces. The defence minister wrote to the prime minister suggesting that "things may take a bad turn" if a timely corrective action is not initiated.
Consequently, the prime minister, in his Independence Day address, announced the setting up of a committee to recommend reforms for the defence forces. The main issues being looked into by the committee include the elevation of all Lt-Gen rank officers to a higher pay scale, increased pension and the 'one rank one pension' (OROP) demand of ex-servicemen. It should be noted that the committee on OROP set up under cabinet secretary Ajit Seth was supposed to submit its report to the PM by August 8. But it has been delayed. Further, the six-member committee is composed only of babus and has no representatives from the armed services.
Previously, recommendations on OROP have been made by the three parliamentary committees on defence and one Rajya Sabha petition committee on OROP. But the PM still consults a committee of bureaucrats on the issue. The I-Day address of the prime minister will not amount to much because delays are expected from the bureaucracy. The defence forces may have to wait till the formation of the next government in 2014 to get their due - that is, if selfless and honest MPs are elected.
PK Vasudeva is a defence analyst and commentator
The views expressed by the author are personal
Leave it to the experts
Comment: The Babus have become Military Experts- since when? Only the Chinese can teach the Politicians and Babus the art of war!
One Rank One Pension: Pay and Pension Grievances of Military
As per PIB Release ID No. 87037 related matter again knocked in Rajya Sabha and same reply submitted by MoD, which was already submitted in Lok Sabha on 27th August [click here to see]. The full details of Lok Sabha query is also reproduced here:-
PIB Release 87037: Click here
Ministry of Defence 30-August, 2012
Committee to Look into Pay and Pension Grievances of Military
The Committee chaired by Cabinet Secretary is comprised of Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister; Defence Secretary; Secretary, Department of Expenditure; Secretary, Department of Ex-Servicemen's Welfare and Secretary, Department of Personnel and Training. Consequent to change in charge of the then Secretary, Department of Expenditure to Department of Revenue, Secretary, Department of Revenue has also been co-opted as a Member of the Committee. Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee made a presentation to the Committee. The Committee further interacted with all the Service Chiefs (Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee; Chief of Air Staff and Chief of Army Staff). The recommendations of the Committee have been submitted to the Prime Minister.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to Shri Arvind Kumar Singh and others in Rajya Sabha today.
**** Source Link: http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=87037 To see an interested guest article "Leave it to the experts" published by Hindustan Times **[Click here]**
Full details of Lok Sabha Q&A dated 27th Aug, 2012
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
LOK SABHA
PAY AND PENSION MATTERS OF PERSONNEL
UNSTARRED QUESTION NO 2514 by Shri M. B. RAJESH, GANESH SINGH, EKNATH MAHADEO GAIKWAD, N.S.V. CHITTHAN, ASADUDDIN OWAISI, NEERAJ SHEKHAR, ANAND PRAKASH PARANJPE, YASHVIR SINGH, KAPIL MUNI KARWARIYA, KHATGAONKAR PATIL BHASKARRAO BAPURAO, PARTAP SINGH BAJWA, MANICKA TAGORE & S. RAMASUBBU
Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state:-
(a) whether the Committee, recently constituted by the Government, to look into the pay and pension related matters of serving and retired defence personnel has submitted its report;
(b) if so, the composition of the Committee including the recommendations made by them in this regard;
(c) whether the Committee included the representatives of the three Services of the armed forces and also the Ex-servicemen and if not, the reasons therefor; and
(d) the steps being taken by the Government on the recommendations made by the Committee?
ANSWERED ON 27.08.2012
ANSWER by MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI A.K. ANTONY)
(a) to (d): The Committee chaired by Cabinet Secretary is comprised of Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister; Defence Secretary; Secretary, Department of Expenditure; Secretary, Department of Ex-Servicemen’s Welfare and Secretary, Department of Personnel and Training. Consequent to change in charge of the then Secretary, Department of Expenditure to Department of Revenue, Secretary, Department of Revenue has also been co-opted as a Member of the Committee. Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee made a presentation to the Committee. The Committee further interacted with all the Service Chiefs (Chief of Naval Staff & Chairman, Chiefs of the Staff Committee; Chief of Air Staff and Chief of Army Staff). The recommendations of the Committee have been submitted to the Prime Minister.
Read more: Click here to read more
Leave it to the experts
August 29, 2012, Hindustan Times
First Published: 21:26 IST(29/8/2012)
The term 'civil-military relations' describes the relationship between civil society as a whole and the military organisations established to protect it. In all democracies, the military leadership is part of the decision-making process, especially on defence and national security issues. But not in India, where the bureaucracy is supreme despite the fact that it lacks the know-how on such issues. This results in chaos, communal disturbances and terrorist attacks from within and across the borders.
The chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee (COSC), Admiral Nirmal Verma, stated in an article that the crux of the problem lies in the fact that the service chiefs remain "non-persons" in the edifice of the government. The background to this anomaly is found in two volumes of business rules, issued under the constitutional powers of the president in 1961. They state that the responsibility for India's defence and its preparation has been vested in the defence secretary. The three service chiefs are not allocated any responsibilities by these rules.
Recently, the defence minister visited the troops deployed on the Line of Control (LoC) to assess their morale. He was shocked to learn that there was discontentment among the soldiers because they earn less than their counterparts in civil and paramilitary forces. The defence minister wrote to the prime minister suggesting that "things may take a bad turn" if a timely corrective action is not initiated.
Consequently, the prime minister, in his Independence Day address, announced the setting up of a committee to recommend reforms for the defence forces. The main issues being looked into by the committee include the elevation of all Lt-Gen rank officers to a higher pay scale, increased pension and the 'one rank one pension' (OROP) demand of ex-servicemen. It should be noted that the committee on OROP set up under cabinet secretary Ajit Seth was supposed to submit its report to the PM by August 8. But it has been delayed. Further, the six-member committee is composed only of babus and has no representatives from the armed services.
Previously, recommendations on OROP have been made by the three parliamentary committees on defence and one Rajya Sabha petition committee on OROP. But the PM still consults a committee of bureaucrats on the issue. The I-Day address of the prime minister will not amount to much because delays are expected from the bureaucracy. The defence forces may have to wait till the formation of the next government in 2014 to get their due - that is, if selfless and honest MPs are elected.
PK Vasudeva is a defence analyst and commentator
The views expressed by the author are personal
Leave it to the experts
Comment: The Babus have become Military Experts- since when? Only the Chinese can teach the Politicians and Babus the art of war!
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